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my stepdaughter was scared to death

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okay she wouldn't leave the house

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because there was something flying over

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we thought it was the end of time

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when i regained consciousness i was on

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board of this uh

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apparently on board the spacecraft and i

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beings

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we have photographs we have films we

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have expert witnesses

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what more do you want we could prove

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that these objects exist we're past the

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point

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of proving they exist the question now

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is why are they here

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and what do they want unidentified

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flying objects

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ufos are they spaceships from other

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worlds traveling through our galaxy

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or are they something else so far

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we cannot escape our own solar system

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our technology has placed man

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no further out than the moon if we can't

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travel to them

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can they be coming to us

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the american government says no despite

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films like this

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they say it's physically impossible so

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they've closed all their official

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investigations of ufos

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that was a fallacy 69 they claimed to

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the public that they closed the doors

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and they didn't because the document

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shows that they

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continued on gathering information so

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that was an out-and-out lie

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under the freedom of information act

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some americans petitioned the government

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for the release of top-secret ufo

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documents

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cover-up a cosmic watergate

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all we want to know is what's going on

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we want the government to tell us the

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truth

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intelligence from a planet far beyond

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our galaxy

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has mastered a technology that makes it

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possible for them

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to do things we can only dream of

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they believe that these beams are

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penetrating the galactic mist that

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shrouds and protects our planet

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some believe that these

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extraterrestrials technology is so

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advanced

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that they might even have visited us

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are there secret messages carved in the

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stones of the pyramids of egypt

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messages that tell us of the mysterious

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voyages of ancient astronauts

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on the pyramids of egypt and mexico and

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in primitive cave drawings all over the

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world there are carvings and images that

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many describe as being of

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intergalactic travelers dressed in space

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suits and helmets

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early romans wrote about flying shields

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ancient egyptians about circles of fire

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are these references and these drawings

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about spacemen

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or about the gods they worshipped in the

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heavens above

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aliens from other worlds with

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extraterrestrial powers are credited by

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some with having moved the great stone

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others point to the giant circle of

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stonehenge as being a sophisticated

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astronomical tool

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only possible at the time if it were

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designed by others with a more advanced

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knowledge of the universe

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and then there are the nazca lines and

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alleged spaceport

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these mysterious images decipherable

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only when seen from the air

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were carved in the ancient times atop a

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many claim this was a landing area for

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if there were ats coming here in ancient

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times they seemed to have lost interest

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in us

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until 1947 then suddenly

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around the world people of all kinds

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began to report seeing them in the skies

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the united states the government

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dismissed the phenomena

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they described the mysterious objects as

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weather balloons hoaxes swamp gas

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and other scientific anomalies

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world war ii it just ended a new age had

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begun at the alamogordo flats of new

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the atomic bomb had unleashed an energy

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that some believe would take us beyond

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reason enough some say for those higher

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intelligences who dwell in other worlds

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to return for a second look at us

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they would have to look beyond the

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shadows of our mushroom clouds

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they would need to know what our

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in the years after the war navy and air

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force pilots regularly reported

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sightings of ufos repeatedly

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these sightings were dismissed by the

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one pilot captain thomas mantell radioed

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he was pursuing a ufo

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the saucer shaped craft he said was

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moving at speeds

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unknown demand he pursued the craft

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the navy investigated the crash and

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attributed the explosion to the pilots

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pushing his plane too high and too

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fast others said mantel was a casualty

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of an extraterrestrial attack

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ufo proponents charged a government

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ufo investigators allege that the

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government cover-up went into high gear

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with the roswell new mexico incident in

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roswell was the site of an army air

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force base 118 miles from the atomic

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testing grounds at alamogordo and only

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alamos birthplace of the atomic bomb

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on july 2nd this rancher mack brazil saw

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something crash in a field outside town

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razzle died in 1963 having kept a pledge

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to the air force to keep secret the

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story of what really happened in this

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field

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brazil talked to only one person about

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those events

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his son bill now 60 years old

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he told him that whatever crashed here

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was something he could not identify

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according to my dad there was a bad

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thunderstorm the night before the next

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he was out on the ranch and he found

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this debris

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and he picked it all up in his pickup

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and was talking to people and

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of course there was some talk about ufos

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he was going to roswell and as far as i

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he got in touch with the sheriff's

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department they in turn

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got with dad and uh swore him to secrecy

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this debris

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major jesse marcel the chief

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intelligence officer at the base

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was assigned the task of collecting the

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debris from the crash site

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his selection for the job ufo proponents

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is proof that the air force knew from

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with my knife i found one piece of what

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looked like metal anyway

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it was not flexible but it was as thin

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as a

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fall pack of cigarettes it was that thin

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one of my boys told me something unusual

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i tried to make a depth in this metal

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and he said you can't bend it

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you can't make a mark on it since i took

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a sledgehammer and

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and winded i put it on the ground and

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went it just let's

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let's have it bounced off of it

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when major marcel reported his findings

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to officials back at the base

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they issued a startling press release

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they had a flying saucer

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the next day major marcel was assigned

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to take the remains of the crashed

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objects to right field in ohio for

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further examination

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however the plane landed at carswell air

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force base in fort worth texas

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general alfred ramy took one piece of

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the object off the plane and called a

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press conference

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then major marcel was given different

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orders by raymie

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he was not to continue on to right field

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he told me

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not to say anything he says i'll handle

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it from now on

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and that's exactly what he did when he

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came out he said

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he told the the press that was there he

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uh that was nothing but a weather

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marcel under orders not to say what he

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believed only recently spoke out against

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the air force's revised story

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it was definitely not a weather balloon

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it was an aircraft so what it could have

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i wouldn't know i still don't know mac

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brazil who had a rancher's knowledge of

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such things

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told his son that like major marcel he

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knew the object was not a weather

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balloon

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he said that's what the air force tried

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to make him believe that it was weather

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boom and he said bill he said

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it was not a weather balloon he said i

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don't know what it was

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but he said it was something altogether

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and much bigger if extraterrestrials

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disagrees the fact the matter is that it

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was

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not a weather balloon as such it

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used a weather balloon as a vehicle but

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what it was

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is called a radar corner reflector

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it's an object that is roughly hexagonal

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so that it can be tracked by radar and

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no matter what

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angle this hexagonal thing is pointing

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it always returns a strong radar echo

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so the object was not a weather balloon

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as such but it used the weather balloon

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to hoist it if the object were only a

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weather balloon

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ufo proponents say then why did the air

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force pledge

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mac brazil to secrecy and why did the

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air force pursue his son in the months

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that followed

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only 22 years old at the time bill could

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not help but be intrigued by his dad's

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discovery of the strange materials in

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this field

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he searched for and found some remnants

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of the crashed object

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and i was talking about it i went into

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corona and i was

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sitting there in the beer joint and i

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got this

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of course my friends was asking me if

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i'd found any more

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or anything like this and i said well

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i've picked up a few

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scraps about a cigar box full

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and somebody i don't know

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must have informed the air force because

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first thing i know i have visitors and

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well like we're gonna have it one way or

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the other you know

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what bill and his father found was taken

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to what is now called wright-patterson

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air force base

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some believe however that much more was

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what they say is the actual shell of a

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spacecraft

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by lightning causing pieces of it to

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fall away into mack brazil's field

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the craft itself they say crashed 78

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the story has it that the spacecraft and

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the bodies of its alien crew members

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were then taken to right field

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and stored in hangar 18. myth

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or fact the air force denies the

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existence of craft or et bodies

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nothing has surfaced in the freedom of

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information act released top-secret

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government documents

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nothing to support what some claim is

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this actual photo of an et's arm

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the air force also denies the existence

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of hangar 18 itself

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senator barry goldwater has written that

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he has tried to gain access to the

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legendary building

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in letters to ufo proponents goldwater

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enigmatically says that he has given up

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trying to solve the mystery

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not because he's satisfied with what he

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hears but because

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it's just impossible to get anything on

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it

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nuclear physicist stanton freeman

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however believes the evidence is there

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there's just no question at all in my

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mind that a saucer did crash

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that bodies were found by the government

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that the saucer itself was picked up by

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the government carted off for study

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uh the tremendous potential for gaining

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new technology

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from a thing is just enormous

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and no government would be foolish

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enough to put it on display instead of

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cutting it off the laboratory

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look it's one of these situations where

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if i were a freelance writer or or

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i'd like to make a story i would love

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this story it's great it would make good

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copy

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but unfortunately or fortunately i

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happen to be a scientist

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and i have you might say the hippocratic

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oath of a scientist i will not

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say something is so until i'm very

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certain in my own mind that it is

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so as far as the creatures are concerned

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i

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astronomer from harvard and northwestern

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universities

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has been a persistent investigator of

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ufo cases in 1952 he was asked by the

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air force to join

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project blue book their ufo

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investigation unit

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17 years later he joined air force

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secretary harold brown at a press

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conference to announce the team's

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conclusions

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none of the evidence that i have

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examined would indicate

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any proof at all that we are being

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visited by extraterrestrials

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what is the air force hiding in this

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investigation we have

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not been hiding anything the

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investigations have been

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made public the explanations of those

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where there is a clear explanation

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have been made public the hearing this

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morning was public for just that reason

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project blue book was activated to deal

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with what the media was calling

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flying saucer hysteria they investigated

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12

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518 sightings

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they could not explain 701 of them

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doubts lingered long past the report's

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publication

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even supporters of the project's

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conclusions had to wonder about

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photographs like these

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in a series of three pictures one can

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judge relative size because of the car

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window

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the telephone poles and the highway one

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can also speculate about the dirt being

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kicked up into the air

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dr heineck the leading scientist on the

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blue book panel

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began to have doubts he personally went

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to brazil to talk to the man who took

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these pictures he discussed the matters

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with the president of brazil

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and with photo analysts on both

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continents by 1973

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he had completely reevaluated his blue

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book experiences

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he now became a critic of the

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investigation and an advocate for more

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ufo study i was there at blue book and i

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know

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the the the job they had they were

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told not to excite the public

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don't uh rock the boat uh

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and i saw it in my own eyes happened

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that whenever a case happened that

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they could explain which is quite a few

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they made point of that and and

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let that out to the media things that

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the the cases that were very difficult

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to explain

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they would jump the handsprings to keep

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the

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had

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a job to do to

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whether rightfully or wrongly to keep

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the

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public from getting excited

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heineck's concession that it was

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possible that extraterrestrials were

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visiting us

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raised the ufo debate to another level a

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major establishment

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astronomer and a man trusted by the air

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force was now saying that intergalactic

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spacecraft

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could be traveling through our solar

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system

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his pronouncements cause scientists who

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might otherwise have stayed out of the

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ufo debate

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to enter it they called heineck's

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proposition

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fantasy but if we just think of our own

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galaxy you know it's a hundred thousand

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light years across that means to travel

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from one side of that

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galaxy to another side the other extreme

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edge would take you a hundred thousand

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years if you traveled at the speed of

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light

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now there's very good evidence that

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nothing travels faster than the speed of

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light i mean it seems to be the ultimate

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speed limit in the universe

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if however uh

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aliens know something we don't suppose

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they are able to

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um transform space and time or

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manipulate space and time in some way

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or travel in other dimensions then

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all things are possible

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[Music]

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as man has entered the space age the

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concept that all things are possible has

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indeed become part of a new way of

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thinking

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some of the men who investigated blue

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book were born before the wright

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brothers flew at kitty hawk

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they conducted their investigation

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before man flew faster than the speed of

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sound

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even the men who flew our space missions

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concede unusual experiences that they

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cannot explain

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astronauts like james mcdivitt on gemini

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4 and ed white

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have reported seeing unidentified flying

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objects in space

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pete conrad on gemini 11 in 1966

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is another of the 11 astronauts who have

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seen ufos on nasa's space flights

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some of these objects the astronauts saw

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were photographed

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nasa has called some of these sun flares

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some are still labeled unidentified

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astronaut gordon cooper was so impressed

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with an unidentified flying object he

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saw

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that he wrote about it to a special

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united nations commission studying the

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phenomena

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he wrote i believe these

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extraterrestrial vehicles

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and their crews are visiting this planet

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from other planets

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which obviously are a lot more

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technically advanced

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recently cooper reversed himself he does

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not now believe that what he saw was an

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extraterrestrial spacecraft

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another of the original mercury seven

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astronauts however

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has not changed his mind about what he

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saw on a test pilot flight in 1952

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deke slayton as i closed on this thing

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why it looked like a weather balloon

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and that's what i presumed it was and i

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had plenty of gas

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and time so i decided i'll just come

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back around and make a make a pass

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on it and i got around where i should

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have been coming back on this thing all

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of a sudden it didn't look like a

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balloon anymore it looked like a

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saucer sitting on edge about a 45 degree

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angle

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i didn't have any gun camera film on

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board unfortunately or i shot some

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pictures of it

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and about that time i guess what

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whatever it was for whatever reason just

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took off climbing at about a 45 degree

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angle and

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and just accelerated and disappeared and

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i obviously couldn't follow with an old

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piston engine

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fighter so i turned around and went home

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some ufo observers however have had

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camera and film on hand at the critical

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moment

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this footage was shot from a helicopter

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off catalina island in 1966

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some say this is a single wing aircraft

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this film was shot by the coach of the

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great falls montana minor league

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baseball team in 1950

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the air force says it is a picture of

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two aircraft

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this film was shot by a newsreel unit in

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guatemala in 1976

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some say this is also an aircraft

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this film was taken by a navy cameraman

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on vacation in trementon utah in 1952

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the air force speculates that these are

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seagulls

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dr heineck disputes the air force's

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explanation of these films

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this plus his feelings about the

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eyewitnesses helped change his mind

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i began to get certain doubts because

532
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not so much of any specific

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case well there were quite a few it was

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the people themselves

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i said to myself well now come on how

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much longer am i going to call these

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people crazy

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uh and when i changed my glasses you

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might say a little bit and took a view

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that maybe these people aren't crazy and

541
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began to realize what

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sort of people they were the people who

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would be accepted

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in any court of law uh as a witness

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let's say

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uh good solid people i said to myself

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well

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the time has come to maybe change my

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attitude

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it was heineken the expressions close

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encounters of the first

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second and third kinds a close encounter

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of the first kind is one that centers

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upon a visual sighting

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heinek investigated first kind

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encounters in 1983

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in new york state local residents and

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commuters just

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40 miles from new york city had been

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reporting sightings of an unusual object

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in the night skies for over a year and a

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half

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sightings were reported on at least 50

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separate nights during the 18-month

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period

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over 9 000 eyewitnesses lawyers

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teachers cpas advertising executives

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nurses and

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factory workers reported seeing the

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unidentified phenomena

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newspapers and television almost weekly

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from different places throughout the

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area eyewitnesses all reported seeing

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the same thing i looked up and right

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over my head

576
00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:19,440
virtually it wasn't far off it was right

577
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:21,520
over my head and very still

578
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:23,440
there was a rim of lights in the shape

579
00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:24,799
of the triangle

580
00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:26,799
it was just a tremendous object it was

581
00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:28,880
anywhere from wing tip to wingtip

582
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:31,919
about 4 50 or 60 yards

583
00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:34,720
these were very very unusual lights i've

584
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:36,720
never seen anything like it in my life

585
00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:38,640
and so i pulled my car over and i had to

586
00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:40,559
take a look i mean he would drive down

587
00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:42,320
the road and look up in the sky

588
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:44,240
some people like bob and laurie posioli

589
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:45,919
were determined to film the object

590
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:48,880
and then one night he spotted this one

591
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:49,919
round

592
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:52,559
object and that's when he called me and

593
00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:54,320
he said quick let's get the camera

594
00:23:03,190 --> 00:22:59,600
and we did oh good god

595
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:03,200
i don't know i'll be

596
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:04,880
i'm going to tell you something honey i

597
00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:08,000
don't know what the hell it is

598
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:10,559
rotating bob and laurie photographed

599
00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:12,720
this unidentified flying object near

600
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:13,360
their home

601
00:23:18,549 --> 00:23:15,840
in brewster new york bob is a vice

602
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:18,559
president in a manhattan computer firm

603
00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:20,000
some of their friends and laurie's

604
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:22,080
parents thought they were crazy

605
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:24,960
despite this photographic evidence yeah

606
00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:28,240
it's turning very very slowly

607
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:31,280
9 000 odd people have seen this thing or

608
00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:34,400
whatever it is and they

609
00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:37,520
all just can't be crazy bob and laurie

610
00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:38,559
have two children

611
00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:40,240
they are concerned about what they saw

612
00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:42,720
in the sky they also wonder why the

613
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:45,919
government hasn't investigated the event

614
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:47,600
their concern is shared by david

615
00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:49,679
scarpino an accountant who works in new

616
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:50,720
york city

617
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:53,200
scarpino a family man has publicly

618
00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:55,679
called for a government investigation

619
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:57,200
he and others like bill healey a

620
00:24:02,149 --> 00:23:59,600
meteorologist at the county airport

621
00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:02,159
made this demand at a town meeting

622
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:04,000
public furore has been led by county

623
00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:06,559
clerk dennis sant sant feels that a

624
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:08,559
government investigation is indicated by

625
00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:10,240
the fact that eyewitnesses have all

626
00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:11,279
reported seeing

627
00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:13,440
the same thing you know the movement was

628
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:15,279
almost like a probing movement

629
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:18,320
it was very slow and it stopped

630
00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:21,520
uh periodically and stationary where it

631
00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:23,600
just came to a standstill

632
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,679
and then it would move to an another

633
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:27,600
position and the movement from one

634
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:29,120
position to another was

635
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:32,960
just extremely slow now the speed

636
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:34,720
at which it was going at that point was

637
00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:36,960
very slow because i had to walk at a

638
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:39,039
very slow delivery gate to keep up with

639
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:41,520
just keep up the lights very step i took

640
00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:42,720
it moved a little bit

641
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:45,039
it moved in a very straight line very

642
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:47,760
slowly there was absolutely no noise

643
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:49,679
when i walked away from it at that point

644
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:50,960
it started to rotate

645
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:53,600
virtually almost as it was on an axis it

646
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:54,320
didn't make a big

647
00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:57,120
loop it just rotated it appeared as i

648
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:58,080
said to rotate

649
00:25:01,990 --> 00:25:00,960
in the sky change lights aircraft i

650
00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:02,000
don't care how

651
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:04,400
well precise you want to be in flying

652
00:25:06,149 --> 00:25:05,120
those suckers

653
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:06,159
you're not going to be able to make them

654
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:08,799
move 90 degrees all right this thing did

655
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:10,720
apparently rotate

656
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:13,679
you can't do that with aircraft could it

657
00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:15,840
have been an aircraft or many smaller

658
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:18,159
light planes flying in formation

659
00:25:22,149 --> 00:25:20,000
the media attention given the sightings

660
00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:22,159
prompted six pilots at a local airport

661
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:23,760
to try to prove that it could be

662
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:28,080
just that amused by the idea of ufos the

663
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:30,480
pilots planned and flew at least 18

664
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:32,880
daring nighttime missions flying in

665
00:25:37,020 --> 00:25:33,600
formation

666
00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:37,030
sometimes without lights

667
00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:40,400
[Music]

668
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:41,919
this hoax fooled at least some of the

669
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:43,600
eyewitnesses

670
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:46,080
but not bob and laurie they claimed that

671
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:48,320
in addition to photographing the ufo

672
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:50,559
they also videotaped the light airplanes

673
00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:58,470
there are six and the lead one has his

674
00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:01,520
three lights on everybody else only has

675
00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:03,760
two

676
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:04,910
did you hear the engines

677
00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:07,279
[Music]

678
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:09,600
some ufo investigators agree that many

679
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:11,760
of the reported sightings were probably

680
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:12,960
of the hoax

681
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:15,360
but some eyewitnesses they say were

682
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:17,279
clearly able to differentiate between

683
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:18,320
the hoax

684
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:24,230
as it was coming over there was a star

685
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:26,000
in the sky and

686
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:29,520
as the lead light went

687
00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:31,360
under that star right behind it you

688
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:32,559
could still see the star

689
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:35,200
which meant it was not a solid object

690
00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:37,279
and as it was going overhead you did

691
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:38,080
hear

692
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:41,760
engines right now what kind of aircraft

693
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,200
engines i don't know but

694
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:45,600
you did hear aircraft engine noise

695
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:46,480
engine noise

696
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:48,240
different lights and different flying

697
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:50,480
movements ufo proponents say

698
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:53,120
clearly make the airplanes ifos

699
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:56,159
identified flying objects

700
00:27:03,990 --> 00:26:59,039
but this object or objects remains

701
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:05,990
some eyewitnesses refused to accept the

702
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:07,919
possibility that these are also the

703
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:10,320
likes of the airplanes

704
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:12,080
i know it wasn't it wasn't an ultra

705
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:13,600
light it wasn't a blimp

706
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:16,640
it wasn't gas no one's tried to tell me

707
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:17,279
what it was

708
00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:21,360
have subjected the videotape

709
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:23,840
images of the hoax and the unidentified

710
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:24,480
lights

711
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:26,960
to various computer analyses by

712
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:28,880
digitalization of the images

713
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:30,559
they hope to be able to determine if the

714
00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:32,640
area between the lights of the ufo was

715
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:33,360
solid

716
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:35,919
indicating one craft the airplanes they

717
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:36,640
hoped would show

718
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:39,279
night sky in the center of the lights

719
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:40,080
physicist

720
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:43,440
al hibbs pictures like this a

721
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:46,480
night sky a few lights taken with a

722
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:48,480
television camera that was perhaps being

723
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,960
moved

724
00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:50,880
act not deliberately but accidentally

725
00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:52,640
while i was taking the pictures

726
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:54,159
there's really nothing you can you can

727
00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:55,840
say about these things in

728
00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:57,919
one case there a very good explanation

729
00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:59,279
is offered and i see no reason to just

730
00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:59,919
believe it

731
00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:01,679
in the other case there's no explanation

732
00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:03,200
i certainly can't offer one

733
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:06,960
i would love it if ufos if some ufos

734
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:08,720
were extraterrestrial objects being

735
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:09,600
piloted by

736
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:11,360
extraterrestrial beings i think that'd

737
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:13,120
be the most marvelous discovery

738
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:14,799
of the history of man i'd love to have

739
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:16,159
that be true

740
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:19,840
so i'm not going to say that uh

741
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:22,559
objects foreign objects artifacts made

742
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:24,080
by intelligent creatures in the solar

743
00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:25,279
system i'm not going to say that's

744
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:26,480
preposterous

745
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:29,520
i'm going to say it is so unusual so

746
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:31,840
immensely important that i'm not going

747
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:33,520
to assign anything like any sightings

748
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:35,679
like this to that phenomenon

749
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:38,240
without a lot more data insufficient

750
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:38,880
data

751
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:41,679
the object remains unidentified for

752
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:43,440
government officials therefore it is of

753
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:44,960
no consequence

754
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:47,120
but for the new york eyewitnesses the

755
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:50,000
question of what it is remains

756
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:51,760
they find the government's apparent lack

757
00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:53,919
of interest puzzling

758
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:56,000
the government didn't come to me as a

759
00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:57,520
rational individual

760
00:29:01,029 --> 00:29:00,080
as an accountant i like concrete things

761
00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:01,039
i like evidence

762
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:02,559
for them to say that i didn't see

763
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:04,399
anything without really talking to me

764
00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:05,760
and investigating it

765
00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:07,600
it means that they were trying to hide

766
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:09,039
something that was my feeling from the

767
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:10,240
very beginning

768
00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:14,080
they know something okay they know

769
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:15,679
something either they know that there's

770
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:17,120
something up there

771
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:18,960
and they don't they want to investigate

772
00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:21,039
it themselves and don't want

773
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,159
other people trying to handle it or

774
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:26,159
they're doing something but if they're

775
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:27,840
doing something then let

776
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:30,880
people know about it this new york state

777
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:33,200
event occurred over a densely populated

778
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:33,679
area

779
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:36,320
and over a nuclear plant prompting one

780
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:38,159
eyewitness new york attorney peter

781
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:38,960
gerstin

782
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:41,679
to suspect a government cover-up with

783
00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:43,120
others like larry fossett

784
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:45,360
a police officer in coventry connecticut

785
00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:46,480
he helped establish

786
00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:49,520
citizens against ufo secrecy

787
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,440
fawcett who says the way he views the

788
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:53,440
world has been drastically affected by

789
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:56,480
his sightings of the ufo in 1965

790
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:57,760
petitioned the government for the

791
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,480
release of ufo-related documents

792
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:02,240
these documents released under the

793
00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:03,760
freedom of information act were

794
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:05,440
previously classified

795
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,600
top secret example of some of the

796
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:09,440
government documents we have

797
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:11,440
obtained are the overflights over the

798
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:14,240
military bases in 1975

799
00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:16,799
over worksmith air force base in

800
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:17,520
michigan

801
00:30:22,149 --> 00:30:20,159
over malmstrom air force base in montana

802
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:22,159
loring air force base in maine

803
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:24,640
midnight air force base in north dakota

804
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:26,399
over a period of six

805
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:29,760
weeks unusual unknown unidentified

806
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:30,480
objects

807
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:33,760
were traveling at exceedingly quick

808
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:36,640
and fast speeds what's interesting is

809
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:37,600
that

810
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:40,080
even to this date the government has not

811
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:41,440
acknowledged that it was able to

812
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:42,799
identify any of those

813
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:46,240
objects the documents do state

814
00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:48,000
that there were confirmed sightings at

815
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:50,520
all four bases in october and november

816
00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:52,480
1975.

817
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:54,080
the first sighting was at lauren air

818
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:55,840
force base in maine

819
00:31:02,070 --> 00:30:57,919
loring like the other bases was a

820
00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:04,230
the documents do not state however that

821
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:05,279
these objects were

822
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:08,880
alien spacecraft they do state

823
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:12,000
that the military reaction was swift and

824
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:17,430
at lauren there were two separate events

825
00:31:24,340 --> 00:31:19,200
something unidentified appeared in the

826
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:25,909
[Music]

827
00:31:29,029 --> 00:31:27,440
larry fawcett having learned of the

828
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:29,039
event in the release documents

829
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,840
investigated military people and guards

830
00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:33,840
in and around the weapons storage areas

831
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:36,159
began to report lights

832
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:38,640
hovering or landing within the weapons

833
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:40,960
storage areas

834
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:43,120
people would military people would

835
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:45,120
respond to the area only to see the

836
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:46,240
lights go out

837
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:47,760
and the object disappear and then

838
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:49,519
reappear over the runway

839
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:52,720
it's described as football shaped

840
00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:54,399
the length of maybe two or three

841
00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:57,039
vehicles cars if you will

842
00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:58,960
the witness telling us that there are

843
00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:00,640
shimmerings of heat

844
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:02,720
as you would see off a desert scene in a

845
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:04,720
movie uh when we questioned the

846
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:06,000
individual could it have been an

847
00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:07,279
aircraft could it have been in

848
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:08,480
helicopter

849
00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:10,399
the military person and i'll give you

850
00:32:13,909 --> 00:32:12,080
his name steve eichner

851
00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:13,919
telling us no i know what helicopters

852
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:15,519
look like i've been around aircraft i

853
00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:17,120
work on aircraft this is something i've

854
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:18,559
never seen before

855
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:20,720
the official records which i quote in my

856
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:22,960
book indicate that on the first night

857
00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:24,640
it certainly was a helicopter it was

858
00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:26,559
described as a helicopter

859
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:29,919
now if the officers on the base

860
00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:32,480
experienced pilots if they don't know a

861
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:35,440
helicopter and we have to depend on some

862
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:38,799
gi who's not a pilot who comes forward

863
00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:41,760
not at the time but years later he

864
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:43,600
claims to have been there and claimed it

865
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:45,360
was not a helicopter

866
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:48,480
again let's go on the official records

867
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:50,640
it is the official records that fawcett

868
00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:52,720
uses to substantiate his claim

869
00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:54,399
that helicopters could not be the

870
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:56,000
explanation the military

871
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:58,399
response at all four bases he says was

872
00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:59,200
too dramatic

873
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:01,200
we from our documentation we know of

874
00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:02,720
pursuits that occurred

875
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:05,279
uh scrambling of aircraft from warring

876
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:07,120
air force base and the chases went up

877
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:08,480
into the canadian

878
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:11,200
territory if you will only to be lost

879
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,799
around new brunswick somewhere up in

880
00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:13,919
that area

881
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:14,720
there's no question there were

882
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:17,600
overflights of unknowns

883
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:19,360
sometimes referred to as helicopters but

884
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:20,960
if you talk till the people read the

885
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:23,120
official government statements

886
00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:25,279
it's clear that they were concerned that

887
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:27,200
there were scrambles of jets to go after

888
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:28,080
these things

889
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:29,679
that they were being observed by highly

890
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:32,080
qualified people

891
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:34,480
we were lied to flat out about those

892
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:35,919
cases as a matter of fact some of the

893
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:38,000
documents we eventually got

894
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:39,120
clearly indicated that there were

895
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,600
instructions to local based commanders

896
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:44,000
don't say anything about the sightings

897
00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:45,440
at the other bases

898
00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:47,360
make it appear to be an isolated

899
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:48,880
instance

900
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:50,880
military authorities will not comment on

901
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,080
the 1975

902
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:54,399
overflights they simply state that at

903
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:55,919
any sac installation

904
00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:57,519
there would always be an immediate

905
00:34:02,310 --> 00:33:59,360
defensive response to anything

906
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:02,320
unknown putting planes in the air they

907
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:02,799
say

908
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:05,039
does not confirm a penetration of an

909
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:06,960
intergalactic crap

910
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,599
citizens against ufo secrecy however

911
00:34:13,589 --> 00:34:11,520
refer to other documents they've gotten

912
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:13,599
released by the pentagon to prove their

913
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:14,320
claims

914
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:17,839
in may of 1985 we've

915
00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:20,399
gotten a document that was classified

916
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:22,720
top secret in 1948

917
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:26,159
and about a month after its

918
00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:28,320
its release to the other agencies its

919
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:29,839
distribution it was ordered

920
00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:31,679
recalled and destroyed each and every

921
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:34,159
copy one copy was kept and it has

922
00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:35,599
remained top secret

923
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:38,000
classified top secret for the last what

924
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:39,520
is it 40 years almost

925
00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:41,119
and in the document the government

926
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:44,000
acknowledges back in 1948 the existence

927
00:34:47,829 --> 00:34:45,760
and reality of the objects

928
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:47,839
the official military position about any

929
00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:49,679
document issued before the project blue

930
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:50,879
book investigation

931
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:53,119
is that blue book later explained them

932
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:53,919
this includes

933
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:55,599
a startling document written by a

934
00:35:00,630 --> 00:34:57,760
canadian wilbert smith

935
00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:00,640
stated flat out in his top secret memo

936
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:02,000
and i think it was declassified by

937
00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:04,240
mistake frankly that this is the most

938
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:06,079
classified subject in the united states

939
00:35:11,829 --> 00:35:07,920
even more so than the h-bomb

940
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,839
and that flat out flying saucers exist

941
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:13,920
this is the opinion of one man a

942
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:15,200
canadian officer

943
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:22,630
[Music]

944
00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:25,040
for proof that flying saucers do exist

945
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:26,160
some critics demand

946
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:28,079
more than just the accounts of those who

947
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:30,160
have had close encounters of the first

948
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:33,359
kind visual sightings even when first

949
00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:35,359
kind encounters are reinforced by

950
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:37,359
photographs they fail to satisfy the

951
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:39,680
need for physical evidence

952
00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:41,359
this woman claims that she has had a

953
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:44,079
close encounter of the second kind

954
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:46,720
a second kind encounter is defined by

955
00:35:51,430 --> 00:35:49,440
its having physical evidence

956
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:51,440
vicki landrum along with her grandson

957
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:53,760
kobe lee alleges that they along with

958
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:55,760
betty cash were on their way home from a

959
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:57,280
bingo game when they encountered

960
00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:00,000
something they had never seen before

961
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:04,800
[Music]

962
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,960
the alleged event took place on december

963
00:36:11,589 --> 00:36:07,839
28th

964
00:36:13,550 --> 00:36:11,599
1980 vicky and colby

965
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:13,560
were driving in betty's car on highway

966
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:15,520
1485

967
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:18,720
30 miles from the houston airport and

968
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:20,880
only 37 miles from nasa's

969
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:24,560
american space headquarters kobe lee

970
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:28,079
saw a light and uh he kept

971
00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:30,960
asking us what the light was and he kept

972
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:33,599
pulling my face around and asking me

973
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:35,839
mama what is it and i said honey i don't

974
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:36,960
know

975
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,480
and uh um but he said i believe it's

976
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:42,240
getting closer and i says well it kind

977
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:43,440
of looks like it

978
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:45,520
but we had no idea that we were going to

979
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:46,880
get hurt

980
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:50,240
i would say within an instant of soul

981
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:53,200
all of us noticed it because it lit up

982
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:54,400
the entire sky

983
00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:56,480
there was no way you could have missed

984
00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:58,480
it it looked like the woods were being

985
00:37:03,190 --> 00:36:59,760
set on fire

986
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:03,200
and uh uh

987
00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:06,720
inside the car it was so hot

988
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:09,599
to my handprint is yet on the dashboard

989
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:16,630
they got out on their side of the car i

990
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:19,040
stepped out on mine

991
00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:21,760
i stood behind the corridor for just a

992
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:22,720
second or so

993
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,400
and i walked toward the front of the

994
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:26,160
automobile

995
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:30,640
i stood there for just a short time

996
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:34,960
i don't know how long trying to see

997
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:38,560
what i could figure this object out to

998
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:39,359
be

999
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:42,800
it was diamond shaped it didn't mean it

1000
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:44,160
was sharp up here

1001
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:46,480
and short down here it was kind of round

1002
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:48,800
and the fire come out the bottom of it

1003
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:52,800
but here was this huge object

1004
00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:56,160
and flame shooting from it and they

1005
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:56,960
weren't just

1006
00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:00,000
small flames they were

1007
00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:03,119
gushing from it and kobe was hanging on

1008
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:04,320
to me

1009
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:07,040
and i he was trying to get uh he started

1010
00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:08,240
pulling away from me

1011
00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:10,079
and i pushed him back in the car and i

1012
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,839
got inside the car

1013
00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:13,680
and put my arm around him and hugged him

1014
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:15,760
up real close to me

1015
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:19,200
we thought it was the end of time

1016
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:23,839
i says uh um kobe don't be afraid

1017
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:29,200
i said if you see a man it'll be jesus

1018
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:31,520
and i said he or come to carry us to a

1019
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:32,560
better place

1020
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:35,440
he will not hurt you it was just burning

1021
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:37,359
it was just too much heat i could not

1022
00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:38,800
tolerate it

1023
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:40,880
so vicki screamed and begged for me to

1024
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:42,560
get back in the car

1025
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:44,880
well i did but i had to use the end of

1026
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:46,400
my leather jacket

1027
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:48,800
in order to open my car door to get back

1028
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:51,440
in that's just how hot it was

1029
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:54,480
and when the object lifted and

1030
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:57,119
slowly moved over to the right of us her

1031
00:39:01,109 --> 00:38:57,680
and

1032
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:01,119
kobe saw some helicopters there were so

1033
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:02,320
many of them it

1034
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:06,160
sounded like a tornado and we counted

1035
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:09,839
23 i counted 22 really but kobe said

1036
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:11,760
there's one more

1037
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:14,800
and i said yeah baby that makes 23. and

1038
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:17,599
they were helicopters on both sides

1039
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:21,280
and also over the top

1040
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:23,599
of the object or like they were trying

1041
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:25,119
to hem it in

1042
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:27,119
the only apparent proof the women have

1043
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:28,320
for what happened to them

1044
00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:30,240
is the illness they claim they suffered

1045
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:32,000
as a result of the encounter

1046
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:34,160
it is the record of these illnesses that

1047
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:36,320
made this an encounter of the second

1048
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:36,880
kind

1049
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:40,720
my eyes were burned so till they

1050
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:44,160
would swell and they were tearing till i

1051
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:45,839
could lay down at night and the next

1052
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:47,599
morning my pillow would be completely

1053
00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:48,800
wet

1054
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:51,680
and i couldn't i couldn't hardly see

1055
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:52,960
anything

1056
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:55,280
vicki was treated for burns and she and

1057
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:57,200
kolbe lee suffered long periods of

1058
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:58,160
nausea

1059
00:40:01,349 --> 00:40:00,320
betty cash was hospitalized immediately

1060
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,359
after the event

1061
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:03,359
she suffered severe hair loss and was

1062
00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:05,760
also treated for burns and nausea

1063
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:07,839
since then she has been hospitalized

1064
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:08,880
several times

1065
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:11,200
it was the first time that i went into

1066
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:13,359
the hospital they were treating us

1067
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:17,520
as burns but then after they found out

1068
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:19,280
really what had happened

1069
00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:22,160
then they started treating us as

1070
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:25,040
radioactive burns

1071
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,960
and since i have had cancer

1072
00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:30,560
betty's hospital records do not

1073
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:32,480
explicitly state that she was treated

1074
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:34,560
for radioactive burns

1075
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:36,880
they do state however that she exhibited

1076
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:38,000
the symptoms similar

1077
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:40,319
to someone who might have been exposed

1078
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:41,520
to a radioactive

1079
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:44,079
element betty further maintains that she

1080
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:46,240
had no cancer history previous to the

1081
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:47,599
alleged encounter

1082
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:50,160
her records do confirm however that she

1083
00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:52,800
does now have the disease

1084
00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:56,560
no i'm not well by no means

1085
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:00,000
i wish i pray that i

1086
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:03,440
could be with the help of peter gersten

1087
00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:05,040
the new york attorney for citizens

1088
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:06,800
against ufo secrecy

1089
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:08,720
the two women have sued the government

1090
00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:11,200
to find out what it was they encountered

1091
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:12,319
that night

1092
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:15,040
was it a ufo or an american weapon gone

1093
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:16,079
awry

1094
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:19,359
or something else i believe the story is

1095
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:23,520
a hoax there is absolutely no evidence

1096
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:26,960
the women's story is supported only

1097
00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:29,680
by the claim of betty cash that she had

1098
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:31,359
serious health problems

1099
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:33,520
after the alleged incident from my

1100
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:35,599
review of the cash land room case

1101
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:37,119
i would say that there's no question

1102
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:38,720
that an event took place that those

1103
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:39,280
people

1104
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:40,720
were near something that was emitting

1105
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:43,280
radiation i don't think it was an alien

1106
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:44,400
spacecraft frankly

1107
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:45,680
i think it was a nuclear-powered

1108
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:48,240
aircraft that's why all helicopters

1109
00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:49,680
it's standard practice if there's a

1110
00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:51,280
classified system around

1111
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:53,119
their guys ready to go there to keep

1112
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:54,880
somebody else from getting that should

1113
00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:58,079
crash the facts are that

1114
00:42:02,230 --> 00:42:01,280
the u s defense department investigated

1115
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:02,240
they could not

1116
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:06,400
locate 22 twin rotor helicopters

1117
00:42:11,109 --> 00:42:08,319
that could possibly have been flying in

1118
00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:11,119
that area and in fact as colonel saran

1119
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:11,520
who

1120
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:13,839
made the investigation told me he said

1121
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:15,680
phil this occurred over the christmas

1122
00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:17,200
new year's holiday

1123
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:19,440
he said you couldn't get that many

1124
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:21,599
helicopters you couldn't get a military

1125
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,720
operation

1126
00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:24,960
into the air over the christmas new

1127
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:25,920
year's holiday

1128
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:28,640
unless the nation was at war the object

1129
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:30,400
was there it existed there's no question

1130
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:31,599
about that

1131
00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:33,119
what's interesting is that for the first

1132
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:34,880
time the government has suggested

1133
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:36,240
that it wasn't theirs that it was

1134
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:38,240
possibly a true ufo

1135
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:40,079
and nowhere has the government ever ever

1136
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,760
admitted other than this

1137
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:43,920
basic document that we've gotten from

1138
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:46,640
1948 that ufos exist

1139
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:50,240
i love this country and all it stands

1140
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:51,680
for

1141
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,680
but i wish they would tell us the truth

1142
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:57,839
if extraterrestrials are coming here

1143
00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:59,119
what do they want

1144
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:01,119
are they coming here just to observe us

1145
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:03,359
or are they making actual contact with

1146
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:04,800
some of us

1147
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:07,040
contact with an alien is what dr heineck

1148
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:09,359
calls and what steven spielberg has

1149
00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:11,040
celebrated in the movies

1150
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:13,839
as a close encounter of the third kind

1151
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:14,800
charlie hixson

1152
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:17,520
says he's had such an encounter these

1153
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:18,800
things evidently they

1154
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:20,640
they are coming from another world

1155
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:21,920
somewhere

1156
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:23,920
uh i don't know what message they have

1157
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:25,920
for us or what they intend to help us

1158
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:27,280
but certainly they're not going to harm

1159
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:30,240
us because they didn't harm me

1160
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:31,920
charlie hickson's alleged abduction

1161
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:34,560
aboard a ufo in 1973

1162
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:36,319
followed the story of betty and barney

1163
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:38,800
hills abduction in exeter new hampshire

1164
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:43,200
in 1961 a most recent claim of a close

1165
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:44,720
encounter of the third kind

1166
00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:46,240
occurred not in the backwaters of

1167
00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:48,800
mississippi but in the heart of new york

1168
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:49,520
city

1169
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,960
rosemary osnato suddenly i hesitated or

1170
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:54,560
i couldn't seem to put the key in the

1171
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:56,079
door

1172
00:44:02,630 --> 00:43:59,440
and i just turned around

1173
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:02,640
and and wanted to go up to the roof

1174
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:04,400
and this seemed rather odd because you

1175
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:05,839
just don't do that in new york you don't

1176
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:07,440
go up on the roof at one o'clock in the

1177
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:08,000
morning it's

1178
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:10,480
just not something you do and yet i was

1179
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:11,680
doing it

1180
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:14,640
and it seemed to be a very bright light

1181
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:15,440
that was

1182
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:17,520
shining in the hallway and i thought

1183
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:19,200
this was moonlight at first

1184
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:22,560
you know and apparently it wasn't

1185
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:24,319
moonlight because when i got up there

1186
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:26,240
there was a very bright light

1187
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:29,119
up on the roof and then it went out for

1188
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:30,880
a few seconds

1189
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:34,000
and then it came back on again and i

1190
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:38,400
was just lifted physically lifted

1191
00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:41,200
in that beam of light when i got into

1192
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:41,520
the

1193
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:49,680
led by a group of

1194
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:53,359
i guess more than one group of grayish

1195
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,960
skinned uh small

1196
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,880
men or women i don't know what they were

1197
00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:00,800
but large

1198
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:05,599
large eyes um

1199
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:09,119
sin frail

1200
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:13,119
and they communicated telepathically

1201
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:14,800
nineteen-year-old travis walton of

1202
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:17,280
snowflake arizona claims he encountered

1203
00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:20,160
similar aliens in 1975.

1204
00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:22,960
walton was in his words zapped by a blue

1205
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:24,640
light when the spaceship appeared

1206
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:27,040
when he was working in the forest when i

1207
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:28,800
regained consciousness i was on board of

1208
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:29,200
this

1209
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:32,400
uh apparently on board the spacecraft

1210
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:35,680
and uh i encountered

1211
00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:38,960
two different types of beings the first

1212
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,960
type of creature i saw was about five

1213
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:42,240
feet tall

1214
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:45,040
they were very white looking their skin

1215
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:46,240
was very pale

1216
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:49,119
and they didn't have any hair on their

1217
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:50,720
heads and they had enormous

1218
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:54,480
eyes there was a type of being there

1219
00:45:56,550 --> 00:45:54,800
that

1220
00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:56,560
you know anyone else would consider to

1221
00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:58,160
be look very

1222
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:00,880
human-like walton was found on a

1223
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:03,280
roadside five days after he disappeared

1224
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:04,319
from the forest

1225
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:06,720
he could however recall only what seemed

1226
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:07,920
like an hour of time

1227
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:11,440
past time he claims he spent aboard an

1228
00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:13,520
alien spacecraft

1229
00:46:20,309 --> 00:46:17,119
now 29 he reflects on that experience

1230
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:20,319
i lost my job uh the you know the the

1231
00:46:23,589 --> 00:46:22,960
the effects were quite negative you know

1232
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:23,599
time lost

1233
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:25,119
you know it's a very disturbing thing in

1234
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:28,240
my life a lot of uh

1235
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:29,920
publicity really you know this is a kind

1236
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:31,520
of a stigmatizing thing for

1237
00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:35,119
for people to you know consider you

1238
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:36,560
you know you know certain percentage of

1239
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:38,319
people think that you're wacko

1240
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:40,319
what travis walton and others claim they

1241
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:43,200
have experienced has according to some

1242
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:44,960
now been validated by government

1243
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:46,480
documents

1244
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,160
about to join the literature of third

1245
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:50,720
kind encounters is the startling tale of

1246
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:52,640
an alleged landing of a spacecraft

1247
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:55,200
outside an american air force bait in

1248
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:56,720
rental from england

1249
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:58,480
the american military admits they are

1250
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:01,119
still withholding six documents

1251
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:02,720
in the bent waters case we have an

1252
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:04,560
eyewitness which is rare

1253
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:07,200
we have an audio tape made at the time

1254
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:08,720
of the actual event

1255
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,720
we have a government document which uh

1256
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:12,400
corroborates the existence of the

1257
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:13,040
incident

1258
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:14,720
the government has no reason to withhold

1259
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:16,319
the information

1260
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:18,160
the ufo is said to have crashed in the

1261
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:20,640
rendelsham forest in an area two miles

1262
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:23,280
from the american military installation

1263
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:25,280
released air force documents confirmed

1264
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:27,359
that military personnel were dispatched

1265
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:28,480
to the site on the first

1266
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,040
night they reported seeing the lights of

1267
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:33,520
the mysterious craft

1268
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:35,680
on the second night after geiger counter

1269
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:37,119
readings indicated increased

1270
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:39,119
radioactivity in the area where it

1271
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:40,960
seemed something could have landed

1272
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:43,119
the commanding officer of the base

1273
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:44,640
colonel charles halt

1274
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:46,720
along with several officers and enlisted

1275
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:50,480
men also reported seeing the ufo

1276
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:52,559
halt wrote this document reporting the

1277
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:54,160
sighting

1278
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:56,079
it clearly indicated the presence of a

1279
00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:57,520
strange glowing light

1280
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:00,800
that illuminated the entire forest

1281
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:02,880
it tells of pulsating red and blue

1282
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:13,349
colonel halt also made this tape

1283
00:48:18,839 --> 00:48:24,340
incident

1284
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:26,790
[Applause]

1285
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:28,559
what colonel halt was describing that

1286
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:29,920
night some believe

1287
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:31,920
was the pulsating light emanating from a

1288
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:34,400
lighthouse five miles away

1289
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:35,680
those who believe that it could not have

1290
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,280
been the lighthouse quickly point out

1291
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:39,359
that hulk's report indicates lights of

1292
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:40,800
different colors

1293
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:42,640
critics respond that pulsating lights

1294
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:43,839
can play tricks

1295
00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:46,480
create illusions and the light comes in

1296
00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:48,079
at you at a roughly tree

1297
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:50,559
level and it turns and it rotates so

1298
00:48:53,589 --> 00:48:51,680
it's flashing on

1299
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,599
and off if you look at the the

1300
00:48:57,670 --> 00:48:55,520
transcripts of the

1301
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:57,680
taped account of what the colonel and

1302
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:59,520
his men said that night you'll find they

1303
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,720
were saying such things as

1304
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:03,119
it's on now it's off it's on it's off if

1305
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:04,480
i remember correctly

1306
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,720
and that sequencing corresponds

1307
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:08,640
precisely with what the

1308
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:10,880
rotational frequency is for the the

1309
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:12,000
lighthouse

1310
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:16,400
close encounter of the first kind

1311
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:18,240
one of the close encounter of the third

1312
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:20,880
kind the story told later by several

1313
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:22,640
american enlisted men

1314
00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:25,680
the story they say they were ordered not

1315
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:27,200
to tell

1316
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,200
afraid to reveal his identity one of

1317
00:49:33,829 --> 00:49:31,599
them talks about the alleged encounter

1318
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,839
the senior officers seemed very calm

1319
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:35,760
with it

1320
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:37,920
and they thought the lower ranking

1321
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:39,760
people like myself

1322
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:41,040
didn't know what to make of it and

1323
00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:44,240
almost maybe shock had set in because we

1324
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:44,960
were very

1325
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:47,359
apt to listen to what we were told to do

1326
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:49,280
i know conversation took place between

1327
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:51,280
our base commander and individuals that

1328
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:51,920
were in the

1329
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:55,119
craft our base commander at that time

1330
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:58,000
apparently even shook one of their hands

1331
00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:00,000
something tells me at that time they had

1332
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:03,200
difficulty with the craft and we

1333
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:05,839
even gave them help in repairing the

1334
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:07,599
craft

1335
00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:09,359
the lighthouse explanation for colonel

1336
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:11,359
halt's report cannot explain away the

1337
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:13,440
account of the alleged landing and third

1338
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:15,119
kind encounter

1339
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,359
and so far nothing in the released

1340
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:19,359
government documents confirms such an

1341
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:20,800
encounter

1342
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:22,400
there are six documents that the

1343
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:24,160
government is withholding concerning the

1344
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:25,680
incident in bent waters

1345
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:27,119
i want to know why they're withholding

1346
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:28,720
that information they do not have a

1347
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:30,400
right to withhold that information

1348
00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:32,079
and i want to know what that information

1349
00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:34,400
is the government will not release the

1350
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:35,119
documents

1351
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:37,839
for national security reasons citizens

1352
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:40,240
against ufo secrecy maintain

1353
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:42,240
that the government uses national

1354
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:43,280
security

1355
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:45,440
as a cover for withholding ufo-related

1356
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:46,720
material

1357
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,640
recently they sued for release of a

1358
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:50,400
document from the national security

1359
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:51,200
agency

1360
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:53,599
when they got it it looked like this

1361
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:54,880
when you go through it all

1362
00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:57,359
and somebody actually added up the

1363
00:51:01,109 --> 00:50:59,359
percentage of the paper

1364
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:01,119
more than three quarters of this

1365
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:02,400
document

1366
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:06,240
isn't there it means quite clearly

1367
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:09,520
that there is a cover-up anybody who

1368
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:10,240
says

1369
00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:11,680
the government isn't holding anything

1370
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:13,040
back has to say well except for that

1371
00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:14,559
stuff they won't release

1372
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:17,440
i mean this is a ufo document it tells

1373
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:17,839
about

1374
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:21,280
one hand

1375
00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:23,359
we the government is still saying ufos

1376
00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:25,599
don't exist now if ufos don't exist how

1377
00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:27,920
can they affect national security

1378
00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:29,839
the government maintains that what is in

1379
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:32,240
the censored and unreleased documents

1380
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:34,400
is information that does not support the

1381
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:36,720
existence of extraterrestrials

1382
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:38,559
but rather information that if released

1383
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:39,920
would compromise our own

1384
00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:42,079
intelligence network much of the

1385
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:44,079
information in those ufo documents the

1386
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:45,440
government claims

1387
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:47,440
has to do with how we intercept and

1388
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:50,079
decode soviet blocked messages to

1389
00:51:54,069 --> 00:51:51,280
release them

1390
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:54,079
would reveal to the soviets and other

1391
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:55,920
potential enemies

1392
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:58,400
where we have listening stations my

1393
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,160
goodness the russians might discover

1394
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:02,640
might discover that we have a listening

1395
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:03,280
station

1396
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:06,160
in leningrad as an example that we had

1397
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:09,359
intercepted some communications there

1398
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:11,920
more important it would reveal that we

1399
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:14,160
were able to decode

1400
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:17,520
soviet coded messages

1401
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:18,960
there are three basic reasons why the

1402
00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:20,319
government does not come forward and

1403
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:22,240
release the information it has in ufos

1404
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:23,520
the first reason is

1405
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:25,280
technology is trying to learn as much

1406
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:27,280
about the objects before the russians

1407
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:30,160
the second reason is the vulnerability

1408
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:31,520
that could be shown

1409
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:34,160
by the revelations that might be

1410
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:36,000
forthcoming concerning ufos

1411
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:37,920
and the third reason is the hysteria

1412
00:52:43,390 --> 00:52:39,680
that might be caused by the release of

1413
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:45,430
[Music]

1414
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:48,800
are these spaceships from other worlds

1415
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,880
are we being visited by intergalactic

1416
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:52,559
aliens with the technology and

1417
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:55,280
civilization that dwarfs ours

1418
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:58,000
most scientists say no they are not

1419
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:00,240
because they cannot

1420
00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:02,960
ufo proponents say they are that our

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myopia prevents us from seeing life

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elsewhere

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as being different from ours i think

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it's one should also point out as

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arthur c clarke has said that when we

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look for life elsewhere we should not

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look only for life as we know

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but life is we don't know and he went so

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far as to say we should even look for

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life as we can't

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understand it

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[Music]

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we are now only beginning to free

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ourselves from the gravity that binds us

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to our own planet

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a new generation of americans those born

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in the space age

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demand new answers to old questions

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more receptive to the possibilities they

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want to know are we being visited by

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intergalactic travelers

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they have joined their voices to others

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asking what's going on

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is there a government cover-up do the

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unreleased documents contain

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evidence that proves that ufos over our

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nuclear plants and air bases are

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actually from

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other worlds or are they from earthly

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neighbors

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most scientists agree that there is life

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in the universe but that it cannot

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travel here

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they hope only to communicate with that

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life with giant radio telescopes

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these scientists believe that what is

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being hidden in the government documents

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is probably not secrets of other worlds

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but the secrets of an earthbound cold

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war

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either way we want to know